Words of a Commanding Officer of the Indian Army – REALITY CHECK for the nation

A CO in the Indian Army recently wrote:-

This is not a post for the weak hearted and Adarsh Liberals so do not go any further if you are out of your comfort zone.
It really pains a soldier’s heart if the blood of his brethren is not adequate to galvanize a nation.

This nation is so ungrateful, the intelligentsia so spineless and intellectual class so bigoted that they will get mobilised by tragedies of Peshawar, Gaza or France. However, they are immune to our own suffering. Why? I will tell you why, because it is fashionable to get associated with a global cause, it makes you look cool, it is easier to talk about it sipping a single malt in a comfortable South Delhi mansion.

I do not condone any of the terror attacks happened anywhere in the world, not even in Pakistan. However, I shall be candid : a terror attack in Peshawar wherein brethren of one enemy is killed by another has very limited relevance for me. I am aware I would be lynched for this statement but I would hold my ground.
Ask anyone who has lifted the coffin of his brother, his comrade, how heavy is the load? It has the dreams of a young wife, it has the future of his children and hopes of his parents. My dear countrymen, it is far heavier than any coffin.

Few of you will also chide me by saying that soldiers are paid to die. No sir, you are entirely incorrect. Soldiers are paid to protect the integrity of the nation. If you want canon fodder, hire mercenaries. This soldier is even denied a decent last journey, his bullet riddled remains are kept in a dilapidated parking yard in Delhi Airport as the ‘designated place’ does not have the security clearance! The same place is opened every Thursday for devotees as there is a Peer Baba located there. Thank the Lord for small mercies that his comrades in OG, will go out of their way to give him a befitting final journey.

His kids and wife are then part of an archaic system where pay stops the next day and pension starts in minimum 4-5 months albeit with arrears. Somebody ask these intellectuals do they even bother to think about a household where there will be no salary for five months but the stomach won’t stop growling, the school fee won’t stop and the electricity bill is still required to be paid.

The average youth of the nation also disappoints here, he is more bothered about mounting losses on Nestle and the two minute gruel. No candlelight march for his soldier, no white cap for his protector. Somehow, misery of Gaza always outshines misery of his own country.

Coming to polity and bureaucracy, the less said the better. If initial reports are to be believed, they are contemplating de-induction of armed forces from the areas where the encounter took place. As a result, the brothers of the slain will be denied even a chance to seek retribution.

Last but certainly not the least, the most disappointing facet, the harbinger of moral compass, the fourth estate, the Media. Death of a soldier doesn’t sell, period. So why even bother.

A soldier is aware of the dangers involved in the life he has chosen. He also understands that every other profession is as important and everybody can not fight.
Just give him dignity when he is alive and mourn for him when he fades away. That’s it, nothing more, nothing less.
I would end this note with an anecdote :
Late Lieut Saurabh Kalia who was one of the earliest casualties of the Kargil War did not die of a gun shot wound. When his body was returned by Pakistan, his eyes had been gouged out, his ears and nose had been chopped, his entire body had cigarette and electric current burn marks, and his private parts had been cut and stuffed in his mouth and his mouth was sewn up. He was alive during the entire ordeal.
Try selling the idea of ‘Aman ki Asha’ to his parents who were not allowed to see their son for one last time, try selling it to his comrades who indeed saw the body.
Reconciliation comes easy in a comfortable home, not in an unforgiving bunker.”

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48 thoughts on “Words of a Commanding Officer of the Indian Army – REALITY CHECK for the nation

  1. Very well brought out but people understand importance of soldiers only at d time of war or national calamities n forget immediately thereafter.
    They don’t demand too much but must not be denied genuine entitlements. Honour, self respect n status means lot to them.They too r human beings n should not be taken for granted.

  2. Very touching on unimaginable ordeal happened to Late Lt. Saurabh Kalia. At the end, many governments changed and did nothing to the great soldier Kalia’s family.

  3. All above said very well but please spare a minute and clean the house in order first !!! READ THE BRIEF IN FULL !!

    BRIEF

    The brief attempts to bring to notice the suppression of Women’s voices in the Indian defence establishment, as the 4600 Women Officers serving in the Military Nursing Service (MNS) are being isolated, discriminated and being pushed down from the Commissioned Officers Ranks of the Regular Army.
    INTRODUCTION OF MILITARY NURSING SERVICE (MNS) :

    MNS is first wing of the Army which was open to the Women, and it still remains as the only all Women Corps. The MNS finds its origins from the Indian Military Nursing Service (IMNS) constituted in 1943, through the IMNS Ordinance 1943.

    The MNS in the present form was constituted through Army Instruction 274/50 in the year 1950. Ever since, the Nursing Officers are commissioned in the Regular Army by the President of India in accordance with Section 10, 16 and 17 of the Army Act, 1950 read with Rule 8 and 9 of the Army Rules 1954.

    They take the same oath as other Officers of the Army to duty bound, honestly and faithfully serve in the regular Army of the Union of India. Their appointments and promotions are notified in the Gazette of India like other Commissioned Officers of the Army.

    MNS is one of the constituent of the Armed Forces Medical Services (AFMS), along with the Army Medical Corps (AMC) and Army Dental Corps (ADC). The method of selection, training, terms and conditions of service and employability of Officers in the MNS, AMC and ADC are similar.

    The AFMS Officers though being Officers of the regular Army are not employed in any other duty other than healthcare and related administrative jobs.

    DEVELOPMENTS:
    The date wise development leading to origin of Military Nursing Service (MNS) in India and its current status is given below:

    15.09.1943 : The Central Government constituted a force called the IMNS, as part of the armed forces of the Union, through the Indian Military Nursing Service Ordinance, 1943 (30 of 1943).

    26.01.1950: The Parliament through the Adaptation of Laws Order (A.L.O.), 1950 amended the Indian Military Nursing Service Ordinance, 1943 on the Country becoming a Republic.

    22.07.1950: The Indian Army Act, 1911 stood repealed; and the Army Act, 1950 came in to force, vide Notification No. S.R.O. 120, dated 22 July 1950, Gazette of India, Part-II, Section-4; and the IMNS as a force cease to exist in the Army. IMNS ordinance, 1943 stood implied by repealed.

    12.08.1950 : The Government of India issued the Army Instruction 274/50, to set the terms and conditions of service for the grant of regular commissions in the MNS forming part of the Regular Army, subject to the Army Act, 1950, and the members of the erstwhile IMNS stood absorbed as officers in the MNS. The auxiliary force called IMNS cease to exist ever after.

    23.11.1954: The Central Government made the Army Rules, 1954 and brought the corps/service called MNS under the Army Rules along with every other Corps/ Service of the Regular Army.

    07.05.1955: The Commander-in-Chief (Change in Designation) Act, 1955; substituted the words ‘Commander-in-Chief, Indian Army’ with ‘Chief of the Army Staff’ in the Sections 7 and Section 11 of the IMNS, 1943; however no specific amendment was made to bring the members of the IMNS or its successors under the Army Act, 1950. This mere change of designation cannot raise IMNS ordinance 1943 which stood already repealed impliedly.

    03.01.1959: Through the Army Instruction 4/59, the Government of India re-designated the rank of the officers in the MNS to conform to the nomenclature used by the other officers of the Regular Army.

    1963: After having re-designated the rank in the MNS by the Government, the Chief of Army Staff through Army Order 501/63 laid down that the MNS Officers are required to salute and are entitled to salutes in the manner as other Commissioned Officers of the Army.

    1973: The Chief of Army Staff through the Army Order 120/73; laid down the order of precedence of the Arms/ Services and Units of the Army including the MNS.

    23.03.1973: The Chief of Army Staff through Army Order 353/73 cancelled the Army Order 501/63 and laid down that the MNS Officers are required to salute and are entitled to salutes in the same manner as other Commissioned Officers.

    15.03.1982: The Chief of Army Staff through the Army Order 11/82 laid down the order of precedence of the Arms/ Services and Units of the Army including the MNS and the cancelled the earlier Army Order 120/73 on the subject.

    1985: The Army proposed to the 4th Central pay Commission for granting the same rank based pay scales to officers in the MNS as for other Service officers.

    05.12.1986 : The Government of India issued the Defence Service Regulations, Regulations for the Army, 1987 for the administration of the Regular Army. The said regulations addresses the MNS as a Corps/Service, and stated that officers in the MNS are Army Officers and will rank equally with male officers of the same titular rank.

    06.12.1993: The Government of India amended the Army Rules 1954 and inserted the Rule 16A dealing with the retirement of officers of the Regular Army from all Corps/ Service including the MNS.

    1995: The Army proposed to the 5th Central pay Commission to introduce rank pay to officers in the MNS as available for other service officers.

    2003: The Army had introduced a Military Law Book including a bogus version of the Indian Military Nursing Service Ordinance, 1943 at its Officer Training School AMC Centre & School Lucknow to deliberately misguide the AMC officer trainees and to encourage them to discriminate and ill treat the women MNS officers.

    09.02.2004: The Army vide letter no. B/42706/MNS/AG/CW-1 dated 9th February 2004 changed the olive green shirt and pants (like other officers in the Army) worn by the officers in the MNS to safari style beige colour uniform. From this date onwards officers in the MNS were being discriminated due to their profession and is a grave gender injustice as the MNS is the only all women Corps of the Regular Army. The change of uniform/rules was to tell officers in the MNS that “you are not our equals”.

    2004: The Ajai Vikram Singh Committee Report recommending accelerated promotion for officers in the Army and sister services was not implemented for the officers in the MNS, creating huge disparities in the promotions between MNS and other officer cadres.

    18.10.2005: The Chief of the Army Staff without stating the reason disallowed the display of star plates and flying of flags by the officers in the MNS of the rank of Brigadier and Major general on their official vehicles. This again is grossly discriminatory.

    20.06.2008: The Chief of the Army Staff wrote to the Cabinet Secretary against granting the same pay band and grade pay to officers in the MNS as for the other service officers as recommended by the 6th Central Pay Commission. This is a grave discrimination based on profession of the officers in the MNS.

    30.08.2008: The Government of India through the Gazette of India, dated 30 August 2008, Part-I, Section 3, Para 1(E) (xi), laid down that the Grade pay to determine seniority of posts only within a cadre’s hierarchy and not between various cadres.

    13.10.2014: The Law Commission of India in its Report No. 249 recommended for specific repeal of the Indian Military Nursing Service Ordinance, Ordinance 30 of 1943 with amendments to the existing law in the form of suitable amendments to the Army Act, 1950 to incorporate provisions pertaining to members of the IMNS.

    2015: The Army authorities sets up/refers to various Committee reports for amendments to Army Rules, 1954; Regulations for the Army, 1987; Army Orders 353/73 and 11/82 etc. and also re-designate the ranks in the MNS, disallowing army officer rank insignias and segregation of family accommodation etc. to discriminate the officers in the MNS from other officers of the Regular Army to mete out invidious discrimination to the officers in the MNS from other officers serving in other branches/services of the Regular Army in gross violation of Article 14 and Article 15 (1) of the Constitution.

    SYSTEMATIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MNS OFFICERS:

    The Indian Army is working hard to bring down the status of the Nursing Officers as Commissioned Officers of the Regular Army

    They have created a bogus (false) copy of certain statutory law (Indian Military Nursing Service Ordinance, 1943) and been teaching the armed forces personnel that the Indian Military Nursing Service (IMNS) and the MNS [which was constituted through the Army Instruction (AI) 274/50] are nothing the same organisation and the officers in the MNS are not officers of the regular Army, but are members of an auxiliary force called MNS.

    The Army is trying to bring in differences between Women Officers in the MNS and other Officers of the regular Army.

    The following developments which have either taken place or are planned would highlight the stated point and the systematic manner in which MNS Officers have been discriminated against:

    (a) Withdrawal of Flying Of Car Flag And Display Of Star Plates on the official vehicles in accordance with the rank of the officer (for Brig and above) have been withdrawn since 2004 for MNS Officers.
    (b) Duplicity/ Ambiguous Stand On Provision Of Army Act for Disciplinary Matters Vis- A- Vis Status As a Commissioned Officer: While for all disciplinary matters including provision of dismissal from service the MNS officers are considered to be under Army Act, 1950 and action taken accordingly, but for status standpoint it is arbitrarily argued that the Military Nursing Service (MNS) officers are not covered under the definition of officer as given in the Army Act, 1950.

    (c) Making Passing Out/Commission Parade For MNS Officers A Low Key Affair:- Previously it used to be a full fledged parade, Adjutant General from AHQ, a Senior Administrative Officer from HQ/Command HQ or Corps HQ being the Chief Guest. Now it is relegated to a function in the auditorium being commissioned by either a commandant or the MG Medical.

    (d) Reduction in Course Duration and Training for MNS Officers:- The course duration of Basic Nursing Officers Course (BNOC) /SNOC have been reduced. This has a negative impact on professional growth and opportunities. Weapon training has been discontinued
    (e) Discontinuation of Arms/Weapons Training to MNS officers: This has been done in order to reduce their Military bearing.
    (f) Proper Respect/Courtesy Not Paid To Additional Director General Military Nursing Service (ADGMNS) As Per Protocol:- Many reported incidents of not according due respect/courtesy to Additional Director General Military Nursing Service (ADGMNS) as warranted by protocol during various official functions/Seminars/events.
    (g) Non Inclusion Of Additional Director General Military Nursing Service (ADGMNS) In The Promotion Board Member:- Additional Director General Military Nursing Service (ADGMNS) is not included as a member in the Promotion Board for the promotion to the rank of Major General and Brigadiers of MNS. They are allowed to be a member of Board of Promotion for the promotion to the rank of Colonel only. This effectively diminishes the functioning of ADGMNS within MNS Corps.
    (h) Writing of Annual Confidential Report of MNS Officers: The ACR’s of MNS officers is now being written by Medical Officers instead of Senior Nursing Officers.
    (i) Suspension of issue of certificate of commission for MNS Officers by the President of India.
    (j) Separate Category for MNS Officers in the Seventh CPC: This is the first time MNS Officers have been categorized in a different group from defense personnel. Affectively they are neither a defense personnel nor a civilian
    (k) Reduction In Pay Grade and Pay Band and Disparity in Pay & Allowances and Travel Entitlements: The MNS officers have been treated unfairly with respect to entitlements of pay and allowances and also Travel entitlements. This has been done in the following manner:
    (i) The MNS officers were previously entitled for G Form as a part of their travel entitlement. But this was arbitrarily changed and MNS officers were given Concession Voucher (CV) in lieu of G form / D Form, just like Personnel Below Officers Rank (PBOR’s).This decision was a huge let down for MNS officers.
    (ii) The following recommendations of VI Central Pay commission duly accepted by Government of India has not been implemented till date and no notification issued:
    (a) That the pay band and grade pay of similarly designated regular service officer’s cadre and MNS cadre should be same.
    (b) That the time bound promotion up to Lt Col of MNS Officers should also be available as applicable to other regular service officers i.e. promotion to Lt Col on completion of 13 years of service
    (l) Change Of Olive Green Uniform For MNS Officers To Dark Beige Uniform: to give them a Distinct Dress Code then other Commissioned Officers. There is a possible move/attempt to further change it to western style white color frock.
    (m) Taking Over of Mess Premises: At many places the Nursing Officers Mess have been taken over by the Unit authorities.
    (n) No Management Courses Sponsored In The Premier Management Institutes Of The Country: such as IIM’s for post retirement settlement of MNS Officers by Director General Resettlement, unlike other commissioned officers.
    (o) Provision Of Resident Telephone To Lt Col In Army: As per Government of India (MoD) order in 2010 all officers holding the rank of Lt Col are provided with resident telephone from army sources but this facility is not being extended to officers holding same rank in MNS.
    (p) Formation of MNS Corps has eluded MNS officers in India, whereas our neighboring countries and the third world nations have already formed their own Army Nursing Corps.
    (q) Refusal To Grant Membership Of Defence Service Officers Institutes /Clubs To MNS Officers: The major Defense Officers Clubs in Delhi such as DSOI, Taurus Officers Institute (TOI) etc in Delhi have made rules and regulations which do not allow Nursing Officers to become a member and therefore bars them and their family members to avail its facilities. This is also happening all over the country wherever Defense Officers Clubs/ Institutes exist. When Nursing Officers can get pay of an officer and are authorized for Government Officer’s accommodation, then how can they and their children be stopped from using the facilities of Defense Officers clubs just like any other regular commissioned officers and family members?
    (r) In addition measures like segregating the accommodation of MNS officers, change in their rank insignias, change in designations, and introduction of changes in surety bond for training are also envisaged or in the pipeline to further erode the morale and stature of MNS officers.

    IMMEDIATE REQUIREMENT:

    The Government should subsequently issue a clarification letter addressed to all the Service Chiefs about the correct legal position and declare that MNS officers are officers of the Regular Army. And also to:-
    (a) Grant the MNS Officers the equal status at par with the officers of the same rank designations in the other Corps/ Services of the regular Army.
    (b) Declare that the officers in the MNS are combatants and are officers of the regular Army; and the MNS is a Corps of the regular Army subject to the Army Act, 1950 and the Rules made there under.
    (c) Re-commence the issue of Parchment of the President’s Commission and firearms training to the officers in the MNS.
    (d) All women officers of MNS may be granted the same Grade Pay, Pay Band and MSP which is entitled to Officers of Army. This includes:
    (i) Grant of same grade pay to the Officers of MNS (from Capt to Major Gen) as applicable for other officers of the Army.
    (ii) Grant of MSP Rs 6000 to all Officers of MNS from Lt to Brig and revised pay fixation for Mai Gen of MNS considering MSP Rs 6000
    (iii) Place the Officers of MNS of the rank of Lt Col on Pay Band -4.
    (iv) The pensioners’ benefits of all the retired Officers of MNS shall accordingly be revised based on enhanced Grade Pay, Pay band and MSP.
    (v) Implementation of already notified ACP for MNS officers up to the rank of Lt Col as available for the other officers (and stop the dilution to time bound promotions in the name of cadre review dated 26 Aug 2010).

    (e) Changes enforced with regard to issue of Concession Voucher (CV) to MNS officers in lieu of G form / D Form is reverted/ restored.

  4. We expect PM Modiji to clean d shoddy system of MOD to induct who have to fight & no paper tiger’s so called babus. Soldiers need to be taken care along with their families. Only Indians take shit from incompetent …..now or never.

    • Completely agree with your words Sir. I expected a lot from that man 2 years ago. Disillusioned today. The soldiers have to stand up for themselves or no one cares. That’s very obvious now.

  5. easy “JAKE PAUN NA PADI BIWAI WOO KYA JANE PEER PARAI” This country needs strong overhaul wherein A GRADE SERVICES should be shouldered thoughtfully keeping in view compulsory induction for national service through regular forces only .they will know the following:-
    1. working under temp -50 to +50
    2 working in inhospitable terrain
    3 away from family
    4 round the clock working
    5 postings anywhere
    6 edn of children’s
    7 early retirement
    8 settlement of children and self
    9 always away from home place
    10 stagnation
    11 no nfu
    12 .pt bpet 10 mile run exercises……………….

  6. The Chetwoode Hall inscription which is the credo of the officers of Indian Army has been misquoted. The correct version is :-
    The safety, honour & welfare of your country comes first, always & every time.

    The honour, welfare & comfort of the men you command come next.

    Your own ease, comfort & safety come last, always & every time

    • Sir, With all due respect… It is some of the senior most amongst us who are responsible for this dilemma, by not paying heed to the second commandment… “The honour, welfare & comfort of the men you command come next”. While they were in chairs of power they should have stood up firmly for the men the commanded! The bureaucrats have taken all advantage of this lack of inward looking top leadership… Food for thought!

      – Cdr. Anil Sreedharan (IN Retd.)

  7. What Churchill said before granting independence to India was true then is true even now. Indians have been slaves for a very long duration to various invaders ,in that ,they had lost their self.A very strong hand was required to infuse back that self in Indians, the defence forces were the only one which had some sense of belonging left with them for this Nation and its people.Dictatorship for a limited period of time was the only answer to weed out the rascles and thereafter bring back Democracy to shape the future of this Nation.The need for such drastic steps still remains the answer.We have trillions of tonnes of muck piled up in this Nation to be weeded out before this Nation can be put on the right path of progress and development .We still need dictatorship for some period of time.We have to infuse in people the competitive spirit there should be No Reservations ,No subsidies only competitions —–and competitions.70 yrs of independence was enough time for Reservations.No more.Bharat Tabhi Bane Ga Mahan Jab Khatam Ho Ga Curruption Ka Naam..

  8. What has been said in the article is true. Some replies in the comments are strange. Trust from a one year plus old government is gone? – This is a legacy which was created from the times when Bose was sidelined by “we all know who” for decades. Taking out anger on the current government makes it look politicized. Please do not do that. I have many dear friends in various arms of the forces. They are disillusioned. The reasons are aplenty in addition to the ones mentioned in the above article. The rot has been made so deep in the last 5-6 decades that the task of setting things in order is not going to be easy by any measure. We suddenly find Ramdas’s of the world writing “English” letters only to be exposed to be anti national driven and conceited individual. It is becoming increasingly difficult to sift through the sponsored muck combined with genuine pain in the system. We the people will have to have far more patience than we think. Our soldiers (Army, Air Force and Navy), Senior Citizens & Women deserve the highest respect that was built into our way of life centuries ago!

    • Fortunately or unfortunately the present government is the one that came to power promising OROP unconditionally. Thus when it falters, it is questioned.
      What was at the times of Bose was as unfortunate and should have been dealt with then and there, it wouldn’t have come to this!

  9. Having been a CO, i can say this CO has said it all.. and couldn’t have put it better. We have an ungrateful nation, and as somebody said,”Any country that doesn’t respect its soldiers, is doomed to fail “. I don’t wish this, but we badly need a lesson.

  10. I agree every bit with words of this Commanding Officer. Have had my young boys die for no cause fighting a useless insurgency in J& K and NE. Wonder when will all this end. Actuallyall those laid down their precious lives have actually got nothing from this ungrateful nation.

  11. 50 Years of the 1965 victory Diwas———- where senior Jay chand veterans joined the celebration for self promotin /for few silver coins and neglecting own brothern(soldiers),even 84 years old soldier was roughed by the Delhi polic at Janter Manter. Chetwodian code,soldie (first),nation after,and own ease comfor and safety combes last.It is the Izzat has been wounded and that needs to be restored.One should be aware of turn coats/blacksheep,so called Jai chand veterans
    with overselves.

  12. Winston Churchill had rightly said when asked what type of govt you will have in India after independence?He replied “Ruthless dictatorship for at least 10years otherwise power will go to scoundrels'”….
    How true it was . I am astonished today to find people telling me that army rule is only answer to problem of this country. Though on their face I differ but when I think deeply I see no hope in democracy. All four pillers of democracy have collapsed or compromised ,media being the last to follow the suit.
    It’s really bad for the country if people start thinking so pessimistically. Politicians should wake up otherwise their days are numbered. The count down has begun.

    • I agree with you Sir. This country was not ready for democracy in 1947 and still is not. The way it is headed, it never will be.
      As always the defence forces have come to save the country when all else has failed, will that be so now too, when it is these very forces the injustice is against?
      I no longer hope for a wake up from these politicians…. Their souls are too far sold to the monetary benefits!

  13. Absolutele truth can be felt one who survive the chill of bullets. Those who talking about Aman ki Asha would never have heard the sound of bullet. For govt OROP is burden on treasury, pension account weight more than soldiers coffin.

    • To those who say OROP is a burden, I only question what risk do the IAS and IJS face that they get unconditional OROP and NFU.
      The defense forces have been wronged far too long now. Time for action.
      If they can kill the enemy outside, the enemy within is only a matter of time to get sorted (this is NOT a death threat).

  14. While the views are very true and realistic , any corrective measures can only be taken by a strong leadership , which I trust we have and the will may also be there to restore the Honour and dignity of its soldiers , either we trust and give them time or else continue in drowing attention , as veterans doing , Jai hind

    • Thank you for coming by and sharing your views Sir. The veterans trusted this government and today we stand at the 106th day of the war heroes and widows and ex-servicemen on the streets. The trust is lost. Now we fight for what is ours… Not a demand but a right!

  15. A nation that forgets its soldiers will soon be forgotten. This was once said by Chanakya and it holds true to this day.

    The farce of political secularism and its corrupt ideology has taken a toll of Bharat’s noblest of all professions since ancient history.

    The only way to end this nonsense is to start taking measures which may not be democratic but save the honour of our soldiers and our country.

    If the fabric of this self-proclaimed secular, free, unbiased and efficient democracy has to be preserved at the expense of my country, my soldiers, my people and my culture then I DO NOT WANT A DEMOCRACY.

    • I couldn’t agree more with you Sir. Democracy for India is now just a farce.
      The words of Chanakya you quoted need to be remembered by our dear PM who seems to have conveniently forgotten that it was his promise of a complete, undiluted OROP that got him the votes of many fauji families such as mine. Is he so shortsighted that he does not see the impact on his votes (since that is all he cares about).

  16. Rightly said, perhaps to gauge any situation rightly its very important to be at least aware of both faces of it. Most of Indians don’t have even far idea of what armed forces personnel goes through as there is no compulsory indictment in forces like that in Israel. It gives rise to a version which is based on masala films and discussions often started to adds some spice in usually banal life.

    • How true! That is what I have wished for sharing this article. While the discussion is ongoing and in full throttle in the army related portals, it does not seem to reach the civilian friends and that was the idea here. Thank you for recognizing,

    • I am extremely sorry if that is the case. However, as I could not find the link (chain) to the right person who wrote this and the alleged officer who wrote this cannot have his position disclosed for obvious reasons, I have put the same in quotes as I do not wish to take any personal credit for this.

  17. I have always regretted not joining the armed forces despite being very closely associated to it. Now after reading this I feel better, because I can not justify to die defending a nation compromising of people who have lost their identity, history, culture and pride. The regret is is so deep, being associated to such Countrymen who on Their first opportunity to hold a western passport will spit on their own country. Dignity. Pride. Self respect. Compassion. Nationalism are emotions they never had for india or Indian nationalism or Indian army. India is rotting with bunch of self centered and selfish people, and this will never change; because to bring change you need to accept the fact first.. But this fact will be rejected on the first light and will be defended not because Indians will be offended by my views of Indians… But for being called selfish and self centered. This country will see nationalism only after being deprived of what it does not respect and value. This included the Indian armed forces.

    • How extremely aptly said. Let me differ on one point though here, if you may allow me, the pride in joining the forces comes from the motto the men in uniform follow, “troops first, nation next and self last”. Being in touch with the veterans I must say that none regret having joined the forces since they got to work for their nation but more so since they could be there for their brothers during war; they are saddened by the shortsightedness of the present and past governments in seeing the devastating effects this shall have.
      Just yesterday a statement for the first time came from a serving officer who chose to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. Will the government only wake up once the revolt reaches the serving men who are at present keeping this country from being taken over on all sides in the blink of an eye! Let’s hope not.

  18. Very true. We are a sorry lot and the last bastion holding the country together is under siege. But who cares? More concerned about Sheena murder and hours of news time, reams of news print, hoards of reporters devoted. The soldier slighted and forgotten

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